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I don't know if they will have the "guts" to answer questions on this forum, but at least they have the "guts" to run which is more than most of the rest of us!
 
I have not seen a large influx of people signing up to run against the people in office now so apparently we must all be pretty satisfied with the way things are or many of us would step up and run.
 
It is easy to gripe and complain on an anonymous forum.  It is not easy to run and be in public office.      
 
I think it is time for people to "put up" or "shut up" because the election is just around the corner.  Run and try to bring about change or don't complain about the way it is.  
 
Just my honest opinion.

Running list of candidates:
 
http://blog.al.com/hoover/2008/07/two_hoover_city_council_seats.html#more
 
So far we have 2 to try to fill Natter's seat and 1 challenging Brian Skelton.

I think the poster in totaling of 3 candidates was including Brian Skeleton.  
 
He is an incumbent and is running for relection but I know a heck of a lot about Brian as opposed to Jimmie Brown.
 
I am more interested in challengers of Hoover City Council Members. "New" individual profiles, organizational relations with Hoover City presently, children that attend or attended schools, professional clubs, what companies work with in business dealings, what field of endeavor i.e. insurance, medical, banking, sales professional, or various other industries or RETIRED from what Industry.
 
Having said all that, I went to Jimmie Brown's website looking for information and only saw his picture.
 
Does John Greene III have a website?

Quote from hooverdad on 07/04/08 at 7:02am:

 
The website: http://www.jimbrownforhoovercitycouncil.com/
 
An e-mail has been sent out by THE Hoover Forum inviting Mr. Brown to take questions under the Election 2008 section.  Should Mr. Brown agree, a board will be set up for him under that section.
 
Should Mr. Greene's and Mr. Davis' web sites or e-mail addresses also be located, please post them, or e-mail them to moderator@hooverforum.com so that we can send them the same invitation.
 
 

I learned IT thur the Grape Vine " heard it through the GrapeVine" that Jimmie Brown has switched from challenging for Brian's seat to competing for Natter's spot in Competition w/ John Brown III.
 
BRIAN MUST HAVE SHUFFLE SOME CAMMPAIGN FUNDS AROUND!!!!

Thanks to the hooverforum I learned of the third candidate, George Davis.  
 
I am going to do my due diligence and learn more about the candidates for Hoover City Council.
 
Let's make Hoover Community a better community by being informed.
 

Quote from HSCIN on 07/05/08 at 9:24am:

 
“Information is a source of learning. But unless it is organized, processed, and available to the right people in a format for decision making, it is a burden, not a benefit.” - William Pollard
 

"Information is the currency of democracy." - Thomas Jefferson
 
"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
 
"Restlessness is discontent and discontent is the first necessity of progress. Show me a thoroughly satisfied man and I will show you a failure." - Thomas Edison
 
"For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise." - Benjamin Franklin
 
"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
 
"He who knows best knows how little he knows." - Thomas Jefferson
 
"When you trust your television, what you get is what you got.  Cause when they own the information, oh, they can bend it all they want." - John Mayer, "Waiting on the World to Change"
 
Information is the key, isn't it?  Information too often translates to power.  I believe that's why sharing information is so threatening.  Sharing information with those who might disagree is even more threatening to those who do not wish their power to be questioned.  
 

Today is July 9.  There are only 4 official days left for candidates to announce themselves.  I simply cannot believe that the population of Hoover is so satisfied with the current council that only 3 people - out of what? about/over 100,000??? - will come forward to challenge the status quo.
 
Have we all lost touch with that American dream of community service, combined with patriotism and community spirit that leads us to step up and run for office?  Where are all of the people with a desire to seek political office?
 
If July 15 ends with the current council 90% intact, we may as well close up shop here at the Forum because all this is - is another place to bi$ch and moan - and continue to not do a darn thing about it.

Quote from synergis1 on 07/09/08 at 9:38pm:

Everyone must be satisfied if they are not stepping up and running for office.  That is exactly what we will hear from those who sit in the seats of power to justify their decisions, past and future.
 
It makes me sad, but what has happened at the national and state level has now come all the way down to the local level.  Money equals power, and those with the money, or the willingness to use their power for the benefit of those who have money, can buy and keep the power.
 
I understand that it will cost about $25,000 to run competitively for city council this year.  I hear that Gene Smith has said that he will spend whatever it takes to be reelected.  He enjoys the power that much, and he has the money to keep buying it.  
 
In the last election, the Association of Homebuilders gave large amounts of money to the winning candidates.  The investment has paid off for them.  Alex and Suzy Baker gave at least $10,000 to winning candidates, and it bought them considerable influence in the school system.  There's a reason most candidates for public office are rich people.  Would Mr. and Mrs. Baker donate thousands to my campaign?  I don't think so.  
 
Folks of modest means can't afford to run for anything, even a volunteer city council seat in a medium-sized city like Hoover.
 
I do not think we should assume that the citizens of Hoover are satisfied with the current leadership.  The only thing that is certain is that our votes have been almost completely devalued by the influence of money on our local elections.   I think we should be careful about pointing fingers at each other and saying, "Why don't YOU run?"  "Well, why don't YOU?"  We are all in the same boat.  Our city government went to the highest bidders in the last election and maybe that has not affected everyone adversely yet, but no one can never be sure that it won't.  
 
Because of this, I think our voice -- our b*&^hing and moaning, if you will -- is more important than ever.  Phase one of tyranny is being able to buy an election and become so entrenched in power that no one can afford to run against you.  Phase two is getting everyone to give up, shut up, and go along with everything you do.
 
I may not be able to afford to run for office, but I don't intend to shut up when I see things that are wrong.

I don't really think you need wealth to run for CC.  I believe that most people would vote for change if the change appeared a better fit. It just looks like we don't have many people interested enough in stepping in to run but I really do not believe that he with the most money would win at this point and time.

Quote from superdolfan on 07/10/08 at 4:17pm:

 
I must have not made myself clear. That is one of the things I don't like about posting vs. speaking.   I was not saying that I didn't think Jacoway could win without spending ANY money.  I think he could get himself or herself out there and make contact with the public.  Hold some rallies, go to meet and greets, talk to the press etc.  He/she would probably need some signs.  Duh.  I just don't think you have to have the backing of BIG money like the Bakers in order to be elected.  I think it is possible for somebody to come out and run and win without selling their soul.  This is just my opinion.  That doesn't mean it is right.

Quote from Hoover Forum Administrator on 07/07/08 at 5:42pm:

 
We received the following e-mail today from Mr. Greene:
 
Thank you for your invitation to be included in the candidates' section of the Hoover Forum. I will send you my web site and email information within the next few days.  Currently, I am out of town on Annual Training active duty for the U.S. Army Reserve and will return to Hoover at the end of July.  While being away from Hoover for this few weeks delays my official campaigning, I am certain that the citizens of Hoover and the members of the Hoover Forum will understand my commitment to fulfilling my military responsibilities.  Thank you again for offering me the opportunity to participate in the Hoover Forum.
 
As soon as we receive the web site information, we'll be setting up the section for Mr. Greene.

Qualifying is now completed.
 
City of Hoover has updated their web site with candidates:  
 
http://www.hooveral.org/Default.asp?ID=32&pg=News&action=view&nid=33 9  
 
We are still missing web sites for:  
 
John Greene, Jon "Rusty" Creel, Sr. (Both Place 7) and Vyvette Isabelle (Place 6).  
 
Should anyone run across any of their web sites, please post them.  Should any canditate running for office wish the opportunity to answer questions from THE Hoover Forum members, please send us an e-mail at moderator@hooverforum.com so that we can set up your section.