Speaking of the wrestling team I'm courious to know if there was any mention of the head coachs alleged inappropriate relationship with one of his wrestlers moms. Allegedly resulting in the divorce of the parents and the quitting of two brothers one of which was a returning state champ.. Or is this something elese thats going to get swept under the rug.. Looks like we might have another Propst in the making..

Mrs. Frazier's term is expiring.  She will have completed her five-year term at the end of May.
 
The next term begins June 1, 2010.  It is a five-year term.  
 
There are many folks reading this forum that would make EXCELLENT board members.  Please consider this option if you have the time to give.  Serving our school community as a board of education member is the highest level of service you can give to the children and families of our school community.  We need great people to step up and serve.

Quote from in.the.know on 03/02/10 at 12:40pm:

 
First, no, I have not been tested.  Perhaps one of your co-workers would like to do so.  Or perhaps you would, though you're probably too busy checking out rumors.
 
Speaking of rumors, if you're so knowlegeable of what happened on that wrestling team, here's a number and an e-mail address of someone you should contact about it:
205-325-2118
 tray@bhamnews.com
 That's Tiffany Ray of the Birmingham News.  I'm sure she'd love to write an article about it.  Coming from an "inside" source like you, it would probably carry a lot of weight.  So, in the know:  Put up or shut up.  I don't think you have it in you to go further than this forum.  Then again, you don't have it in you to do much of anything, which has been your MO for decades now.
 
I'm into lyrics today, ITK, and just ran across this song that reminded me so much of you.  It's called "Take the Money and Run" by The Steve Miller Band.  The verse that reminded me of you:
 
Billy Mac, is a
detective down in Texas
And though he knows just exactly what the facts is
He ain't gonna
let those two escape justice
He makes his livin' off of other people's taxes
 
Ironic, isn't it?
 

Quote from in.the.know on 03/02/10 at 4:09pm:

 
According to YOU, you are "in.the.know", you have implied since day 1 on this forum that you are on the "inside", therefore I must deduce that you are paid by the taxpayers.  In other words "living off other people's taxes".
 
Who you are exactly, I have no idea, and frankly I don't care.  I know if I were your boss and saw what you were posting here, you'd be fired.  On the spot.
 
I'm really, really sorry that I was baited into this exchange with you because you have successfully hijacked this thread, which is a shame.
 

Thank you AKA for making my point you have no idea of who I am. FYI I do work for the city I have not done so for even one "DECADE" much less "DECADES".I also live in Hoover and have for "DECADES" so I wonder does that make me self-employed? if I go by your reasoning and I live in Hoover and I pay taxes in Hoover than yes,yes I am most definitely self-employed Heck!!! if thats the case and it's all the same to you instead of firing myself I think I might l just give myself a raise, after all it is my tax money...

To the Admin, could you please move the posts about the wrestling coach to a new thread?  This certainly does warrant discussion by any who might have information or want more information about this.  I've seen posts moved before, and perhaps this would be a good one to move?
 
In.the.know, this obviously means a lot to you.  You don't appear to be intimidated about speaking out, and I would strongly encourage you to move forward and contact the news media.  Often, the media are the only ones who actually have the power to make an issue out of something.  I would have hoped that other parents in the organization would be willing to help you, but it doesn't appear they have the courage that you do.  Reporters often work with "anonymous" sources if they can verify the information through a known source.  A phone call to Ms. Ray would certainly get the ball rolling.
 
Good luck.

No, there is no school policy against having affairs.  It is morally repugnant, but the only judgment adulterers face is the Final Judgment.  There are no social consequences.  There aren't any legal consequences.  This is a social ill that is ruining our country.  And that's all I'm going to say about this.
 
The only court is the court of public opinion.  Which is why, if in.the.know wants to make this an issue, the media is the only outlet.

Application cut-off is Wednesday, March. 31 at 5pm.  As of today, Monday, only one application has been turned in, but they expect a flurry on the last day.

The four applicants for the Board of Education opening are:
 
Donna Frazier
Barry Thomas
Terry Young
Arnold Singer
 

I attended the work session of the City Council tonight.
 
Mr. Ivey announced that there were four applicants for the Board of Education opening and he has set the following schedule:
 
Interviews will begin at 2:30 pm on Thursday, April 15, 2010 in the William J. Billingsley Council Chambers.  Each interview will last approx. 20-30 minutes.  After the interviews the council will have their work session.  The new Board of Education member will be announced at the regular council meeting on April 19, 2010 at 6 pm.
 

I don't know what the academic backgrounds of any of the 3 new candidates are, or what side of town they are from for that matter. But, in my opinion, it's ridiculous to consider putting uneducated people on a Board of Education. Part of the BOE's job is to ensure our children are prepped for college. How can you do that if you have no frame of reference?!?

Quote from hibousage on 04/11/10 at 9:52am:

 
Mrs. Baker, as a school board member, was under the impression that all of the children who attended our high schools went on to college.  When I spoke to her about it in 2007, she was completely floored that not everyone did.  This made no sense to her.
 
BucStopsHere, you and I agree on many things, but this is not one of them.  "Uneducated" is a very disparaging term to use on someone who did not receive a college degree.  
 
I know many people with a four and six-year degree who are currently either unemployed or doing things that their degrees did not prepare them for...like waiting tables.
 
In 1981 the dean of a very prestigious university said during the commencement of the graduating class (and I paraphrase) "You will now all find out why it's called a BS degree".
 
In not way should you interpret my comments here to indicate that a degree is not important, however, a degree does not measure whether or not a person is "educated" or not.
 
In my three years of observing the Hoover Board of Education I was fully aware that Mrs. Frazier did not have a college degree.  Frankly, at times she ran circles around those that did.  Sometimes common sense trumps a "formal education".
 
Knowing three of the four candidates personally, I can assure you that the college degree part is not, and shouldn't be, a determining factor in choosing the next member.
 
 
 

Quote from BucStopsHere on 04/11/10 at 5:22pm:

 
I assume your sentence "It all starts w/ the BOE, who they hire to administer the schools, and the academic curriculum they approve.".  means "Who the BoE hires to administer the schools, and who they hire to approve the curriculum." and not "The BoE is hired to administer the schools and to approve the academic curriculum."?
 
I would have to say it's preposterous to assume that someone who did not spend 4+ years in college has "no clue what it takes to succeed at that level of education...".  Going to college is not a spectacular achievement.  Actually there are many who graduate from college who don't know how to put complete sentences together.  75% of the NFL players come to mind.
 
Let's now look at some people out there who don't have a college degree who know a thing or two about business:
 
Mary Kay Ash
Richard Branson
Michael Dell
Walt Disney (high school drop-out)
Henry Ford (high school drop-out)
Bill Gates
Milton Hershey
Steve Jobs
Ty Warner
Frank Lloyd Wright
 
Here's a 100 more.
 
I once attended a banquet with a number of very prominent, famous people.  A majority of them were in the athletic field and they were there to honor one of their own.  Before the main event began, one of these invited participants, a graduate of one of our state universities (I won't reveal the name, but suffice it to say they have more national championship than their main rival), leaned over to me and asked me to read the menu to him.  The man couldn't read!  And he had a degree!
 
Some jobs require a degree.  I wouldn't want a doctor working on me who didn't attend med school.  I wouldn't want my prescription filled by a person who didn't attend pharmacy school.  I wouldn't want to be represented in court by someone who didn't attend law school.  But I'll take Steve Jobs to run my company over those who ran GM and Chrysler into the ground any day of the week.  And I'd rather have Bill Gates run my IT department over anyone with a college degree, or two or five.
 
Our Board of Education is there to set policy, not to administer the schools.  That's why we hire those with master's degrees as principals.  Do I think the entire Central Office staff should have degrees in education?  Absolutely.  Do I think that the Board members need one also?  Not at all.  Donna Frazier does not have a degree.  She runs a successful business.  Arnold Singer does not have a degree.  He ran a successful company.  Terry Young does not have a degree.  He runs a successful business.  Barry Thomas has a degree.  He is the CFO of a company.  They are not out of business and I've dealt with them for four years, so I'll assume his company is successful.  
 
Now let me take you back three years.  Some very bad financial decisions were made during that time.  Any idea who spearheaded them?  I'll give you a clue.  They had a college degree.
 
Finally, let's look at some local school background of these candidates.
 
Terry Young -  Loves Spain Park HS.  Two years ago he wanted to give a Mercedes Benz to the student with the highest GPA at SP.  He wrote a letter to Billy Broadway explaining his motivation behind the move.  Luckily it was shot down by Mr. Sweeney, who felt it would send the wrong message to the public.
 
Donna Frazier - Loves Spain Park HS.  Mrs. Frazier supported Mr. Young's "donation" and considers him one of her "closest friends".
 
Arnold Singer - Has no relatives in any Hoover school.  No bias, no allegiance.
 
Barry Thomas - Treasurer of the Hoover HS Band Boosters.  Of course this might explain hhsoutlaw's support of him, and perhaps yours also, BSH.  Boosters tend to stick together.  Unfortunately that type of thinking got us in trouble a few years ago.
 
You know what I really liked about the last two appointments?  There was no perceived school affiliation, just a City of Hoover affiliation.  In order to get back to a neutral school board, we need to stop with the rah-rah of "my high school is better than yours" and appoint people who care more about all of the kids in our school system than if Hoover beat SP or if SP beat Hoover.  Only one candidate can bring that type of thinking to the table.  Only one.    
  
 

From the "Where Are They Now" department:
 
http://blog.al.com/businessnews/2011/07/former_cfo_of_central_leasing.html
 
Well, at least he's got a college degree