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synergis1

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Re: Dear Mrs. Frazier:
Reply #20 - 08/02/07 at 7:07am

If you will note, when I used the word, I put it in quotes. I was quoting the former supt. that many people here hold in high esteem.

Personally, I find Martin Nalls to be a pompous, insensitive jerk who uses his power to show off. He called me one day while I had someone in my office and my phone was only working in speakerphone mode. He proceeded to tell me what he wanted me to know, without ever asking if it was a good time to call, even when I tried to interupt him to ask if I could call him back. The person in my office happened to be another school administrator. When Nalls and I finished our conversation, my guest asked me if that was the Martin Nalls from Hoover High. I told him yes. He said, "I have never in my life heard anyone be that rude to a parent over the phone. That was very unprofessional." My guest then told me that he is related to Nalls by marriage, but didn't know him well. He added that he was not sure, after hearing the way he treated me, that he wanted to know him and he certainly did not want his children exposed to him or his "nasty attitude".

You may call it a "poor choice of words". I say it is "calling it like I see it". I am never one to sugarcoat my opinions.

Guess we should agree to disagree. When it comes down to it, you really don't know me. If you did, you would know that I am one of the least "racist" people you could ever meet. As I said before, I work in a situation where I am the minority. I am very sensitive to racial remarks. But then again, with most of my friends, we are way past the race issue and just talk like friends talk about whatever suits us. I guess I forgot that many of you here are not "friends" but vicious "haters" (to quote some of the other posters) out to pillage, harm and destroy anyone that dares to disagree with you.

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Re: Dear Mrs. Frazier:
Reply #22 - 08/02/07 at 10:34am

Why does that "hate" word come up so often? Just because someone has a difference of opinion doesn't make them haters - or viscious.
One problem in our country today is this "you're either with me or against me" mentality. I would blame the current administration, but since they lack any originality, I have to conclude that they are simply using the current zeitgeist to their advantage.

It may be best to just drop this thread as it's bound to just get nastier and is irrelevant to the issues we face in Hoover.

synergis, if I came off sounding like I was accusing you of racism, I apologize. If there is anyone in this forum who now truly thinks that synergis is a racist, then they are an idiot.

Peace.

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Re: Dear Mrs. Frazier:
Reply #23 - 08/02/07 at 10:44am

Quote from DriveSouth on 08/02/07 at 10:34am:

Why does that "hate" word come up so often? Just because someone has a difference of opinion doesn't make them haters - or viscious.
One problem in our country today is this "you're either with me or against me" mentality. I would blame the current administration, but since they lack any originality, I have to conclude that they are simply using the current zeitgeist to their advantage.

It may be best to just drop this thread as it's bound to just get nastier and is irrelevant to the issues we face in Hoover.

synergis, if I came off sounding like I was accusing you of racism, I apologize. If there is anyone in this forum who now truly thinks that synergis is a racist, then they are an idiot.

Peace.

I agree. Let's focus on the important issues at hand. The mis-management of the BOE.

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Re: Dear Mrs. Frazier:
Reply #24 - 08/02/07 at 8:03pm

DS, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I wish everyone else on this from would be as open-minded and considerate as you. Some people seem to get pleasure from tearing people down when mistakes are made, but they become very defensive when the shoe is on the other foot. If you leave in a glass house... A periodic honest self-assessment is appropriate, since we all make mistakes occasionally.

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Re: Dear Mrs. Frazier:
Reply #25 - 08/02/07 at 10:30pm

Quote from finalexaminer on 08/02/07 at 8:03pm:

DS, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I wish everyone else on this from would be as open-minded and considerate as you. Some people seem to get pleasure from tearing people down when mistakes are made, but they become very defensive when the shoe is on the other foot. If you leave in a glass house... A periodic honest self-assessment is appropriate, since we all make mistakes occasionally.

I am as guilty as anyone to some extent. I am not always as open-minded and considerate as I should be. I deeply appreciate the compliment, FE, thank you.

Time to hit the rack, Folks! G'Night.

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Lament

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Re: Dear Mrs. Frazier:
Reply #26 - 08/03/07 at 11:37am

Quote from tentedmed on 07/31/07 at 7:18am:

There was a post that spoke about the number of gays and lesbians in our schools too and that should be of grave concern too since there are so many of them teaching our kids in the classroom. I wonder how many teachers would lose their jobs if we knew everything about their personal lives? To me having a pedophile or gay or lesbian teaching our kids is a issue and we should clean house of all despicable faculty because I know I would not want my son or daughter interacting with any of them in a classroom on a daily schedule. Yes a student can drop a sport if they have a concern about a certain teacher or coach but they can't drop classes if they have that same concern then their only choice would be to leave for another school or drop out and that may not be a option for the family if they can not afford to move or pay for private schools. So let us get rid of all the trash in our schools because there are a lot of homosexuals interacting with the students every day and that is sick for our kids to be exposed to seeing someone that lives that disgusting behavior and lifestyle among them in the classroom. We are unable to clean out the Board of Education, but we are able to clean out the people that put them there. Council, consider yourselves on notice. The line has been drawn in the sand, folks. The people will see to that. All gay and lesbian homosexuals teaching in our schools must go at once.

After all the gays and lesbians are fired we are going to need a lot of applicants to fill jobs in Hoover schools since while I think about this there will be teachers fired in almost each subject in every grade in all our schools. I wonder also how many applicants we will have to turn down too due to their personal choice of lifestyle of being homosexual? Maybe we can have it printed on the application that if you are a homosexual you can not apply. That should help the process go quicker.

Council, now that you've read this, pick up the phones and do what you know is the right thing. NOW!

You have a problem with gays or lesbians teaching me? Do you!? Why is that a problem? People have the right to their own personal lifestyle. I agree that the school needs to know some things about those who they hire, but their sexual preferences should not bar them from a job; a job that we need nevertheless. If someone is being sexually harassed, that is a different story. Many kids are just freaked out because they don't know enough about homosexual people. All their life they heard people calling each other 'gay' and 'f*g**t,' they don't know any better but to feel a little afraid of them. I know a few gay guys, they're actually pretty fun to hand out with.

Unfortunately, I can not truly give an accurate opinion about this topic; I have never had a gay or lesbian teacher.

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Re: Dear Mrs. Frazier:
Reply #27 - 08/03/07 at 11:47am

Quote from Lament on 08/03/07 at 11:37am:

Quote from tentedmed on 07/31/07 at 7:18am:

There was a post that spoke about the number of gays and lesbians in our schools too and that should be of grave concern too since there are so many of them teaching our kids in the classroom. I wonder how many teachers would lose their jobs if we knew everything about their personal lives? To me having a pedophile or gay or lesbian teaching our kids is a issue and we should clean house of all despicable faculty because I know I would not want my son or daughter interacting with any of them in a classroom on a daily schedule. Yes a student can drop a sport if they have a concern about a certain teacher or coach but they can't drop classes if they have that same concern then their only choice would be to leave for another school or drop out and that may not be a option for the family if they can not afford to move or pay for private schools. So let us get rid of all the trash in our schools because there are a lot of homosexuals interacting with the students every day and that is sick for our kids to be exposed to seeing someone that lives that disgusting behavior and lifestyle among them in the classroom. We are unable to clean out the Board of Education, but we are able to clean out the people that put them there. Council, consider yourselves on notice. The line has been drawn in the sand, folks. The people will see to that. All gay and lesbian homosexuals teaching in our schools must go at once.

After all the gays and lesbians are fired we are going to need a lot of applicants to fill jobs in Hoover schools since while I think about this there will be teachers fired in almost each subject in every grade in all our schools. I wonder also how many applicants we will have to turn down too due to their personal choice of lifestyle of being homosexual? Maybe we can have it printed on the application that if you are a homosexual you can not apply. That should help the process go quicker.

Council, now that you've read this, pick up the phones and do what you know is the right thing. NOW!

You have a problem with gays or lesbians teaching me? Do you!? Why is that a problem? People have the right to their own personal lifestyle. I agree that the school needs to know some things about those who they hire, but their sexual preferences should not bar them from a job; a job that we need nevertheless. If someone is being sexually harassed, that is a different story. Many kids are just freaked out because they don't know enough about homosexual people. All their life they heard people calling each other 'gay' and 'f*g**t,' they don't know any better but to feel a little afraid of them. I know a few gay guys, they're actually pretty fun to hand out with.

Unfortunately, I can not truly give an accurate opinion about this topic; I have never had a gay or lesbian teacher.

Freudian slips are so cool, aren't they?

And regarding not having any gay or lesbian teachers...yes you have...you just didn't know it. They don't "glow in the dark" you know. They are very much like you and me. And the fact that you didn't know it proves my point.

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Re: Dear Mrs. Frazier:
Reply #28 - 08/03/07 at 7:10pm

Quote from aka_deplume on 08/03/07 at 11:47am:

Quote from Lament on 08/03/07 at 11:37am:

Quote from tentedmed on 07/31/07 at 7:18am:

There was a post that spoke about the number of gays and lesbians in our schools too and that should be of grave concern too since there are so many of them teaching our kids in the classroom. I wonder how many teachers would lose their jobs if we knew everything about their personal lives? To me having a pedophile or gay or lesbian teaching our kids is a issue and we should clean house of all despicable faculty because I know I would not want my son or daughter interacting with any of them in a classroom on a daily schedule. Yes a student can drop a sport if they have a concern about a certain teacher or coach but they can't drop classes if they have that same concern then their only choice would be to leave for another school or drop out and that may not be a option for the family if they can not afford to move or pay for private schools. So let us get rid of all the trash in our schools because there are a lot of homosexuals interacting with the students every day and that is sick for our kids to be exposed to seeing someone that lives that disgusting behavior and lifestyle among them in the classroom. We are unable to clean out the Board of Education, but we are able to clean out the people that put them there. Council, consider yourselves on notice. The line has been drawn in the sand, folks. The people will see to that. All gay and lesbian homosexuals teaching in our schools must go at once.

After all the gays and lesbians are fired we are going to need a lot of applicants to fill jobs in Hoover schools since while I think about this there will be teachers fired in almost each subject in every grade in all our schools. I wonder also how many applicants we will have to turn down too due to their personal choice of lifestyle of being homosexual? Maybe we can have it printed on the application that if you are a homosexual you can not apply. That should help the process go quicker.

Council, now that you've read this, pick up the phones and do what you know is the right thing. NOW!

You have a problem with gays or lesbians teaching me? Do you!? Why is that a problem? People have the right to their own personal lifestyle. I agree that the school needs to know some things about those who they hire, but their sexual preferences should not bar them from a job; a job that we need nevertheless. If someone is being sexually harassed, that is a different story. Many kids are just freaked out because they don't know enough about homosexual people. All their life they heard people calling each other 'gay' and 'f*g**t,' they don't know any better but to feel a little afraid of them. I know a few gay guys, they're actually pretty fun to hand out with.

Unfortunately, I can not truly give an accurate opinion about this topic; I have never had a gay or lesbian teacher.

Freudian slips are so cool, aren't they?

And regarding not having any gay or lesbian teachers...yes you have...you just didn't know it. They don't "glow in the dark" you know. They are very much like you and me. And the fact that you didn't know it proves my point.

Sorry mate, 'd' is quite close to 'g' on the keyboard. God forbid I mis-type once in a while. The fact that I have not ever had a problem with any of my teachers sexually harassing me (the only problem I've had is that I've had bad teachers and I can't express my beliefs) proves my point. You kind of unknowingly backed me up lol. I really don't see what the problem with gays and lesbians is. Mind enlightening me so I can see from your point of view?

For the record, I'm strait.

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Re: Dear Mrs. Frazier:
Reply #29 - 08/03/07 at 8:19pm

Quote from Lament on 08/03/07 at 7:10pm:

Quote from aka_deplume on 08/03/07 at 11:47am:

Quote from Lament on 08/03/07 at 11:37am:

Quote from tentedmed on 07/31/07 at 7:18am:

There was a post that spoke about the number of gays and lesbians in our schools too and that should be of grave concern too since there are so many of them teaching our kids in the classroom. I wonder how many teachers would lose their jobs if we knew everything about their personal lives? To me having a pedophile or gay or lesbian teaching our kids is a issue and we should clean house of all despicable faculty because I know I would not want my son or daughter interacting with any of them in a classroom on a daily schedule. Yes a student can drop a sport if they have a concern about a certain teacher or coach but they can't drop classes if they have that same concern then their only choice would be to leave for another school or drop out and that may not be a option for the family if they can not afford to move or pay for private schools. So let us get rid of all the trash in our schools because there are a lot of homosexuals interacting with the students every day and that is sick for our kids to be exposed to seeing someone that lives that disgusting behavior and lifestyle among them in the classroom. We are unable to clean out the Board of Education, but we are able to clean out the people that put them there. Council, consider yourselves on notice. The line has been drawn in the sand, folks. The people will see to that. All gay and lesbian homosexuals teaching in our schools must go at once.

After all the gays and lesbians are fired we are going to need a lot of applicants to fill jobs in Hoover schools since while I think about this there will be teachers fired in almost each subject in every grade in all our schools. I wonder also how many applicants we will have to turn down too due to their personal choice of lifestyle of being homosexual? Maybe we can have it printed on the application that if you are a homosexual you can not apply. That should help the process go quicker.

Council, now that you've read this, pick up the phones and do what you know is the right thing. NOW!

You have a problem with gays or lesbians teaching me? Do you!? Why is that a problem? People have the right to their own personal lifestyle. I agree that the school needs to know some things about those who they hire, but their sexual preferences should not bar them from a job; a job that we need nevertheless. If someone is being sexually harassed, that is a different story. Many kids are just freaked out because they don't know enough about homosexual people. All their life they heard people calling each other 'gay' and 'f*g**t,' they don't know any better but to feel a little afraid of them. I know a few gay guys, they're actually pretty fun to hand out with.

Unfortunately, I can not truly give an accurate opinion about this topic; I have never had a gay or lesbian teacher.

Freudian slips are so cool, aren't they?

And regarding not having any gay or lesbian teachers...yes you have...you just didn't know it. They don't "glow in the dark" you know. They are very much like you and me. And the fact that you didn't know it proves my point.

Sorry mate, 'd' is quite close to 'g' on the keyboard. God forbid I mis-type once in a while. The fact that I have not ever had a problem with any of my teachers sexually harassing me (the only problem I've had is that I've had bad teachers and I can't express my beliefs) proves my point. You kind of unknowingly backed me up lol. I really don't see what the problem with gays and lesbians is. Mind enlightening me so I can see from your point of view?

For the record, I'm strait.

Yes I am backing you up because you're seeing the world as it should be seen, without prejudice. But many people in your age group (which by the way, I'm highly suspect of, but that's another topic) don't share your non-bias. As far as the Freudian slip comment, you will have to get used to having a) a sense of humor around here every once in a while and b) taking a friendly jab from the people here. The key word is "friendly" not "hateful". If we are going to have a good dialogue, we must have a sense of humor about what is happening, regardless of how bleak it may look at times. And what you will find about me is that I have an incredibly dry sense of humor. The mistyped word was a perfect setup for my comment and it was not meant in a personal way.

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Lament Ex Member	Re: Dear Mrs. Frazier: Reply #30 - 08/03/07 at 10:20pm lol there's different humor on different forums . Still getting used to this one! The mis-type was kinda bad lol.
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