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Bham News prints Rush editorials from readers
08/05/07 at 9:36am
 
This is just a select few mind you, of the hundreds I am sure they have received.
 
http://www.al.com/opinion/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/opinion/118630349332036 0.xml&coll=2
 
HOOVER HIGH SCHOOL:  
 
Incompetence, jealousy at work
 
Thirty years of my career in education were spent in Hoover schools as a teacher, elementary school principal, high school principal and director of planning for the new Hoover school system. I feel qualified to express anger and sadness that this outstanding system is being controlled finally by politicians rather than by educators.  
 
The jealousy factor behind all the happenings here has become a destructive element that undermines Hoover schools' operation. Qualified administrators deal with diagnosed jealousy in-house, never in a public forum.  
 
The success and national attention earned by Hoover High School's football program are subject to slander by those who feel threatened by success. Mediocrity becomes a standard. I do not know coach Rush Propst personally, but his personal life has never seemed the problem in years past.  
 
Hiring an outside noneducator to publicly investigate the nonrenewal of a principal and the personal life of a coach has caused the Hoover school system to bear the jokes of wags. Jealousy and administrative incompetence have disgraced a wonderful school system. Retirement is relief.  
 
Jo Ann H. Pritchett  
 
Montevallo
 
We're accountable for our actions:
 
As a 1997 graduate of Hoover High School, I have been intrigued, to say the least, by the recent soap opera surrounding my alma mater. While it's hard to really know who's telling the truth in this situation, we all should be reminded that whether we are coaches, principals, school board members, parents, fans or employees, we all must be held accountable for our actions.  
 
Furthermore, we all should understand that actions do have consequences and that any unethical behavior catches up with us in the end. That alone should make us think twice the next time we are tempted to do wrong.  
 
Brian Blackwell  
 
Lincoln, Neb.
 
Students have heard the gossip:
 
When did Rupert Murdoch take over at The Birmingham News? I'm wondering if the Hoover High School officials who are so concerned with shielding the Hoover seniors from "adult controversy" are the same ones who were so willing to share their dirty laundry with News staff writer Erin Stock. If so, they're the biggest hypocrites I've heard of in a month of Sundays.  
 
Don't be deceived.  
 
If there's anything of substance to the saga, the seniors already have all the facts, have heard all the gossip and are way ahead of their purported moral defenders.  
 
Adults are so naive. This pronouncement comes from an adult.  
 
Fred Holmes  
 
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Must put students ahead of football:
 
I graduated from Hoover High School this past May, and I am utterly disgusted by what is going on at my alma mater. Within the past year, the superintendent, the assistant superintendent and the principal of my high school all have been fired, without due process in my opinion. Why has this happened?  
 
The answer lies in the fact the aforementioned people stepped up and called football coach Rush Propst out on some questionable actions. No one can dispute the fact Propst knows how to win. But do we really want to win at all costs when we see how it can destroy a high school that was recently named one of the top schools in the nation?  
 
This decision ultimately lies in the hands of the school board. And I believe it is time for the board to step up and make a decision in the best interest of the students instead of what is best for the revenue of the football program. Because the students are the ones who should matter the most.  
 
Kyle George  
 
Hoover
 
 
 
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Reply #1 - 08/05/07 at 9:37am
 
She said "The jealousy factor behind all the happenings here has become a destructive element that undermines Hoover schools' operation."
 
And I vomited all over myself.
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Reply #2 - 08/05/07 at 9:39am
 
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=rush+propst&ie=UTF-8& scoring=n
 
Click here for a compendium off published Rush Propst articles.
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Reply #3 - 08/05/07 at 10:19am
 
The former student, Kyle George said "Must put students ahead of football".  I couldn't agree with you more.
 
But son,  can you even think that in Alabama, much less say it?  Have you gone into the witness protection program?  
 
Mr. George has hit on the essence of the problem.  As long as football is viewed as the only important thing at HHS,  the controversy will rage on.  There have been how many principals at HHS since 2004?  Have all of the problems originated because someone dared to question RP's actions?  Followed by other administrators, school board members and FB Boosters coming up with reasons why they must be replaced.  It sounds like this principal is not prepared to go away quietly with his tail between his legs.  Good for him.  I hope he tells his story loud and long and burns down this house of corruption that RP football built.
 
Then Mr George's idealistic (but correct) though foreign concept of putting students ahead of footbal will have a chance of becoming realty.
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Reply #4 - 08/05/07 at 10:30am
 
Jo Ann H. Pritchett  never had these problems while she lead BerryHigh School as principal. She is right a true educator that is a leader is not in control but idiots on the school sboard are making bad choice after bad choice.  
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Reply #5 - 08/05/07 at 10:41am
 
[HOOVER HIGH SCHOOL:   Incompetence, jealousy at work
 
Thirty years of my career in education were spent in Hoover schools as a teacher, elementary school principal, high school principal and director of planning for the new Hoover school system. I feel qualified to express anger and sadness that this outstanding system is being controlled finally by politicians rather than by educators.  
 
The jealousy factor behind all the happenings here has become a destructive element that undermines Hoover schools' operation. Qualified administrators deal with diagnosed jealousy in-house, never in a public forum.  
 
The success and national attention earned by Hoover High School's football program are subject to slander by those who feel threatened by success. Mediocrity becomes a standard. I do not know coach Rush Propst personally, but his personal life has never seemed the problem in years past.  
 
Hiring an outside noneducator to publicly investigate the nonrenewal of a principal and the personal life of a coach has caused the Hoover school system to bear the jokes of wags. Jealousy and administrative incompetence have disgraced a wonderful school system. Retirement is relief.  
 
Jo Ann H. Pritchett  
 
 
I remember her from Berry HS and while she may not know Rush she sure has his jealousy speech down pat.  His personal life has not been a problem because the inner circle has been successful at keeping it under the rug.
 
This editorial perfectly illustrates the old saying "birds of a feather."  I guess I just didn't remeber to drink my rushaid this morning because I don't see how the situation we are in was caused by people who are just "threatened by" Hoover's success in football.
 
Sure, a winning record is something to aspire to, but jealousy has not caused any of our problems in Hoover like the birds want everyone to believe.
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Reply #6 - 08/05/07 at 10:43am
 
Quote from Bucsfan on 08/05/07 at 10:30am:
Jo Ann H. Pritchett  never had these problems while she lead BerryHigh School as principal. She is right a true educator that is a leader is not in control but idiots on the school sboard are making bad choice after bad choice.

 
Agree, but look who she had as a football coach.
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Reply #7 - 08/05/07 at 11:19am
 
Quote from gsbs on 08/05/07 at 10:41am:
[HOOVER HIGH SCHOOL: Incompetence, jealousy at work

Thirty years of my career in education were spent in Hoover schools as a teacher, elementary school principal, high school principal and director of planning for the new Hoover school system. I feel qualified to express anger and sadness that this outstanding system is being controlled finally by politicians rather than by educators.

The jealousy factor behind all the happenings here has become a destructive element that undermines Hoover schools' operation. Qualified administrators deal with diagnosed jealousy in-house, never in a public forum.

The success and national attention earned by Hoover High School's football program are subject to slander by those who feel threatened by success. Mediocrity becomes a standard. I do not know coach Rush Propst personally, but his personal life has never seemed the problem in years past.

Hiring an outside noneducator to publicly investigate the nonrenewal of a principal and the personal life of a coach has caused the Hoover school system to bear the jokes of wags. Jealousy and administrative incompetence have disgraced a wonderful school system. Retirement is relief.

Jo Ann H. Pritchett


I remember her from Berry HS and while she may not know Rush she sure has his jealousy speech down pat.  His personal life has not been a problem because the inner circle has been successful at keeping it under the rug.

This editorial perfectly illustrates the old saying "birds of a feather."  I guess I just didn't remeber to drink my rushaid this morning because I don't see how the situation we are in was caused by people who are just "threatened by" Hoover's success in football.

Sure, a winning record is something to aspire to, but jealousy has not caused any of our problems in Hoover like the birds want everyone to believe.

 
Nice that you were raising your voice at us, I love the bold.  Yea, I'm totally jealous of Hoover.  I really want to be coached by some idiot who's working with two ladies and like 6+ kids.  I cry to myself sometimes at night because I feel "threatened" by Hoover's sucess at football...you know....because football is everything in my life.
 
By the way, this is definitely a little birdy.  A little birdy who spends 7 hours a day in a prison of conformity.  This little birdy tries to whistle, but is afraid to do so because a big, bad, cat will beat the hell out of him if he does.  So, because this little birdy has tried to convey his ideas in his prison and noone listens, he posts on a forum site where he argues with the cats.
 
Too many metaphors?  Too bad.
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Reply #8 - 08/05/07 at 12:02pm
 
Quote from Carmen Sandiego on 08/05/07 at 9:36am:

Incompetence, jealousy at work

Thirty years of my career in education were spent in Hoover schools as a teacher, elementary school principal, high school principal and director of planning for the new Hoover school system. I feel qualified to express anger and sadness that this outstanding system is being controlled finally by politicians rather than by educators.

The jealousy factor behind all the happenings here has become a destructive element that undermines Hoover schools' operation. Qualified administrators deal with diagnosed jealousy in-house, never in a public forum.

The success and national attention earned by Hoover High School's football program are subject to slander by those who feel threatened by success. Mediocrity becomes a standard. I do not know coach Rush Propst personally, but his personal life has never seemed the problem in years past.

Hiring an outside noneducator to publicly investigate the nonrenewal of a principal and the personal life of a coach has caused the Hoover school system to bear the jokes of wags. Jealousy and administrative incompetence have disgraced a wonderful school system. Retirement is relief.

Jo Ann H. Pritchett


Students have heard the gossip:

When did Rupert Murdoch take over at The Birmingham News? I'm wondering if the Hoover High School officials who are so concerned with shielding the Hoover seniors from "adult controversy" are the same ones who were so willing to share their dirty laundry with News staff writer Erin Stock. If so, they're the biggest hypocrites I've heard of in a month of Sundays.

Don't be deceived.

If there's anything of substance to the saga, the seniors already have all the facts, have heard all the gossip and are way ahead of their purported moral defenders.

Adults are so naive. This pronouncement comes from an adult.

Fred Holmes

Homewood



 
These two bother me.  Perhaps I am misreading or misinterpreting them.
 
Mrs. Pritchett writes that Coach Propst's "personal life has never seemed the problem in the past".  Does this mean that the allegations were known in the past?  Is she willing to excuse the behavior?
 
And regarding Mr. Holmes' comment, if the seniors have all the facts and are OK with all the facts then perhaps the adults that object to the facts have done a pretty sorry job in teaching the seniors what facts are good and what facts are bad or perhaps Mr. Holmes needs to get his facts straight.
 
Or perhaps I am misreading his quote.
 
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Reply #9 - 08/05/07 at 12:51pm
 
My take on it is that Mrs. Pritchett (she was my principal for many years) doesn't have a clue and has been out of the loop for a long time.  She probably still has some teachers that she keeps in touch with who have told her "it's all a mistake, just an innocent computer error" (that's what a number of the "good" teachers are saying, BTW).  She feels responsible to speak up because she's a power-monger, too.
 
I'm wondering who knew what when they brought RP here.  Apparently there were those who were aware of the allegations out of Eufaula (RP and SDP were flaunting their behavior there along with some other sordid stuff that RP did) but because nothing "illegal" (no charges were filed) had happened, there was nothing administrators at HHS could do.  
 
Time to exhume those old bones and find out who knew what and who is now culpable for unleashing RP on Hoover.
 
Don't get me wrong, though.  RP is first and foremost responsible for the moral vacuum he started.  Those that have been sucked into his black hole are guilty, too, though.
 
I'm appalled that Mrs. Pritchett would write what she did.  Although, under her leadership, Berry High School was a joke as well.  In fact, it operated similarly to how HHS has operated over the last 3 or 4 years.  (The main difference being that Bob Finley was indeed a man of great character unlike Lord Volderpropst.)   Gee, maybe SHE should apply for the principal's job.  Now I get it.  She's trying to rub elbows with the corrupt powers-that-be so she can come out of retirement....hmmm......
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Reply #10 - 08/05/07 at 3:03pm
 
Lament where do attend high school at?
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Reply #11 - 08/05/07 at 3:50pm
 
Lament,
Protect your identity brave man.  Do not answer Bucsfan question.
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Reply #12 - 08/05/07 at 4:35pm
 
Quote from radar49 on 08/05/07 at 3:50pm:
Lament,
Protect your identity brave man.  Do not answer Bucsfan question.

 
 
Typical let someone else do his talking.  What high school he is from will tell his motive.
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Reply #13 - 08/05/07 at 5:07pm
 
It is a$$holes like you, Bucsfan that flame this inter-district rivalry.
 
Why can it not be that the young man cares about the district as a whole?  You and your idiotic buddies always have to attach a high school to someone's argument.
 
You see a Buc or a Jag first.  No one with half a brain does besides you and your football-crazed buffoons.
 
Get over it.  No need to ask.  No need to answer.
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Reply #14 - 08/05/07 at 6:25pm
 
Quote from Bucsfan on 08/05/07 at 4:35pm:
Quote from radar49 on 08/05/07 at 3:50pm:
Lament,
Protect your identity brave man.  Do not answer Bucsfan question.



Typical let someone else do his talking.  What high school he is from will tell his motive.

 
What is your motive?  Do you think Lament called radar49 and asked him to repond?  That is really reaching.
 
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Reply #15 - 08/05/07 at 6:41pm
 
Actually, I thought he had pretty much said in earlier posting, if you had really read it.  Maybe I was wrong.
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Actually, I thought he had pretty much said in earlier posting, if you had really read it.  Maybe I was wrong.

 
I am not trying to be thick here, but I do not understand your post.  Is it directed at me?  I read Lament's post and I hope that I understood what he was saying, maybe not.  Anyone who has read Lament's post I believe knows that he can hold his on and needs no help.  I did not understand why it mattered which school he attended, so I asked.
 
 
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Reply #17 - 08/05/07 at 7:45pm
 
Not you BBob,...I just actually thought Lament had already indicated where he was from, if you had read his postings.  I really don't think it matters either.  I enjoy his postings.
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Thanks JBH.  I felt like I knew from his post also.  He is a breath of fresh air.
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Reply #19 - 08/05/07 at 8:45pm
 
Quote from Lament on 08/05/07 at 11:19am:
Quote from gsbs on 08/05/07 at 10:41am:
[HOOVER HIGH SCHOOL: Incompetence, jealousy at work

Thirty years of my career in education were spent in Hoover schools as a teacher, elementary school principal, high school principal and director of planning for the new Hoover school system. I feel qualified to express anger and sadness that this outstanding system is being controlled finally by politicians rather than by educators.

The jealousy factor behind all the happenings here has become a destructive element that undermines Hoover schools' operation. Qualified administrators deal with diagnosed jealousy in-house, never in a public forum.

The success and national attention earned by Hoover High School's football program are subject to slander by those who feel threatened by success. Mediocrity becomes a standard. I do not know coach Rush Propst personally, but his personal life has never seemed the problem in years past.

Hiring an outside noneducator to publicly investigate the nonrenewal of a principal and the personal life of a coach has caused the Hoover school system to bear the jokes of wags. Jealousy and administrative incompetence have disgraced a wonderful school system. Retirement is relief.

Jo Ann H. Pritchett


I remember her from Berry HS and while she may not know Rush she sure has his jealousy speech down pat.  His personal life has not been a problem because the inner circle has been successful at keeping it under the rug.

This editorial perfectly illustrates the old saying "birds of a feather."  I guess I just didn't remeber to drink my rushaid this morning because I don't see how the situation we are in was caused by people who are just "threatened by" Hoover's success in football.

Sure, a winning record is something to aspire to, but jealousy has not caused any of our problems in Hoover like the birds want everyone to believe.


Nice that you were raising your voice at us, I love the bold.  Yea, I'm totally jealous of Hoover.  I really want to be coached by some idiot who's working with two ladies and like 6+ kids.  I cry to myself sometimes at night because I feel "threatened" by Hoover's sucess at football...you know....because football is everything in my life.

By the way, this is definitely a little birdy.  A little birdy who spends 7 hours a day in a prison of conformity.  This little birdy tries to whistle, but is afraid to do so because a big, bad, cat will beat the hell out of him if he does.  So, because this little birdy has tried to convey his ideas in his prison and noone listens, he posts on a forum site where he argues with the cats.

Too many metaphors?  Too bad.

 
I know you are fairly new and I've read your posts, which are somewhat insightful.  However, before you throw your cocky attitude my way why don't you take the time and read more carefully.  My response was in bold not because I was raising my voice, but to distinguish the response from the post that I was quoting.  Let me clarify a few things, not drinking my rushaid means that I don't subscribe to his agenda or his behavior and will not be lulled to sleep by his doublespeak.  My "birds of a feather" reference refers to that fact the the writer of the quote, Pritchett, is much like Rush and probably runs in the same circles.  I don't think anyone is "threatened" by the football teams success and to say so is ludacris.  Lastly, "the birds" refers to the birds of a feather like Rush and his suppoters that want us to drink from the fountain of success that he so eloquently pours with his foul mouth and immoral behavior.
 
I do appreciate your stance and the fact that you are here, but please don't go on the sarcasm attack if you are not sure the nature of what someone has posted.
 
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