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superdolfan

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Reply #81 - 08/04/07 at 12:02pm

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The way I see it differently, the Duke case had one incident being investigated by many parties. The prosecution, the defense, and probably the papers. While it was terrible for the boys accused, they eventually were cleared.

Here in Hoover, and Eufala, and Ashville, there are multiple stories, but not much of anyone really saying they are looking in to anything. We have the BoE saying it really doesn't think it needs to be looked into. Maybe if there were underage goats....There are no answers coming out, one way or the other.

As was refernced earlier, there was a principal taken out of one of the elementary schools, never to be seen again in the school. It was too bad, because I think he was wonderful. But you do have to err on the side of what kids are exposed to.

Will it end at high school, or will the crusade expand to college when Nick Saban's personal and professional decisions come out in the paper from an unnamed source?

As you can plainly see, my user name is "superdolfan", which makes me a fan of the Miami Dolphins. Nick Saban is the former coach of the Miami Dolphins who clearly pointed his finger at reporters in December 2006 and said "I am not interested in the Alabama coaching job". As soon as the season was over with, he was the new head coach of the Univ. of Alabama. The man is a liar so there is no need to bring him into this conversation. It's irrelevant and has nothing to do with the conversation. If you have exhausted your points, then say so instead of grasping for straws.

I didn't make the connection between your screen name, and Nick Saban being with the Dolphins because I honestly forgot that the Phins were an NFL team.

You let your kids pull for a team with a repeated drug offender like Ricky Williams? He seems like a pretty bad example. Wouldnt want my kids watching that. They may see a high profile person like him openly talk about using drugs and think its ok.

Very nice, HH. Yes, my kids pull for the Dolphins and yes, it was explained to them that Ricky was suspended for using drugs, which is what happens to adults who make bad decisions - they face the consequences for their actions. One big circle, isn't it? Bad actions = consequences. But I can see that you're pulling out your points from dark places, having run out of legitimate ones. That's OK, I still like you, even if you do take a personal shot at me via my team. I was not aware that this was a personal debate. I'm not going there. I'm trying to stay on topic.

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Reply #82 - 08/04/07 at 12:06pm

As a parent of 2 high school teenagers and 2 adult children, you never stop trying to protect them, but with that being said. When they turn 18 you can no longer control them, or who they they look up to or have as friends. When they are under 18 and when your money is being paid to someone that has influence over them yes you do have the right to speak up and do something about it.

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Reply #83 - 08/04/07 at 12:08pm

Quote from croggen on 08/04/07 at 12:06pm:

As a parent of 2 high school teenagers and 2 adult children, you never stop trying to protect them, but with that being said. When they turn 18 you can no longer control them, or who they they look up to or have as friends. When they are under 18 and when your money is being paid to someone that has influence over them yes you do have the right to speak up and do something about it.

Nicely said.

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Reply #84 - 08/04/07 at 12:11pm

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What age is it that you think we should no longer be concerned with the people we pay, and put in front of our children as leaders?

To me, there is no age which is why I was asking if Propst must go, why is Saban, a known liar and however many NCAA infractions, revered when coaching our same kids one year later?

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HooverHooch

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Reply #85 - 08/04/07 at 12:16pm

Quote from croggen on 08/04/07 at 12:06pm:

As a parent of 2 high school teenagers and 2 adult children, you never stop trying to protect them, but with that being said. When they turn 18 you can no longer control them, or who they they look up to or have as friends. When they are under 18 and when your money is being paid to someone that has influence over them yes you do have the right to speak up and do something about it.

But do you control what colleges they look at when they are 16 and 17 and eventually apply to?. Do you say the same things about the college coaches that is being said about the high school coach and rule out 90 colleges because of faculty with questionable private lives. From what I recall, college cost more than high school, so a lot more of your money is being paid to someone for that college influence. I can safely say that I was more influenced by what I experienced at college than I was from anything at high school.

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Reply #86 - 08/04/07 at 12:19pm

Quote from HooverHooch on 08/04/07 at 12:11pm:

Quote from JBH on 08/04/07 at 11:47am:

What age is it that you think we should no longer be concerned with the people we pay, and put in front of our children as leaders?

To me, there is no age which is why I was asking if Propst must go, why is Saban, a known liar and however many NCAA infractions, revered when coaching our same kids one year later?

Excellent question - the answer is the same as those who defend this situation: blind faith. That jersey sometimes carries more weight than morals do. But your question is an outstanding example.

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Reply #87 - 08/04/07 at 12:23pm

Quote from HooverHooch on 08/04/07 at 12:16pm:

Quote from croggen on 08/04/07 at 12:06pm:

As a parent of 2 high school teenagers and 2 adult children, you never stop trying to protect them, but with that being said. When they turn 18 you can no longer control them, or who they they look up to or have as friends. When they are under 18 and when your money is being paid to someone that has influence over them yes you do have the right to speak up and do something about it.

But do you control what colleges they look at when they are 16 and 17 and eventually apply to?. Do you say the same things about the college coaches that is being said about the high school coach and rule out 90 colleges because of faculty with questionable private lives. From what I recall, college cost more than high school, so a lot more of your money is being paid to someone for that college influence. I can safely say that I was more influenced by what I experienced at college than I was from anything at high school.

As I said before, you can no longer control them when they turn 18, but you will always try to protect them. Yes you do have control over which colleges they appy to if they are under 18 but not after. Unlike other parents we are not paying for our children's colleges, they have to earn it, by grades. Or pay for it themselves. We feel that way they will take it more seriously and not feel they are entitled.

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