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Re: Hunter Ford
Reply #60 - 08/03/07 at 10:42pm
 
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Genius hooch..

Hunter just said they didn't want to be IDed.  That means they prefer not to be the person quoted in the paper confirming this kind of sordid story.  They don't want the heat that comes with that and they have ties to someone close or they wouldn't be able to confirm it to Hunter.  So....obviously....that makes it wrongfor Hunter to use their names without permission.


Did he have Rush's permission to use his name?  So you can use Rush's name who I am fairly certain did not want to be IDed, but not the person who told you what you wrote?  That sounds pretty convenient.  Then, if the story turns out to be false, or erroneous in any way, shape, or form, you blame the unnamed source for being false.  That is perfect.  You can attempt to ruin the life and reputation of Propst with absolutely no repercussions to anybody, except your invisible information leak.

I should have been a journalist.

 
Do you have any idea what the hell would happen to me if I IDed myself on this forum?  My life would take a plunge down into the Marinara Trench.  You think Hunter is making this up for his own personal gain?  I don't know this guy, but from the posts I've been reading he sounds like a pretty cool cat.  You say you should have been a journalist...go on, just remember to print the truth.
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Re: Hunter Ford
Reply #61 - 08/03/07 at 11:53pm
 
So if I understand Hooch correctly, he believes that when a person says "no Comment" to a journalist, there is no story and the journalist should go away and forget it - nothing to report.
 
Too funny.
 
If that was the case, there would never be a newspaper article written - except those based on press releases - and tv news programs would be awfully boring since they could only give the weather and sports scores.  Oh wait - FOOTBALL is the only thing that matters anyway.
 
There would never be a trial/hearing either since we should all just believe everyone that says "No comment" and "I didn't do it" and drop the matter.  
 
WRONG!
 
Investigation can and will prove what happens - even if the guilty party screams NO COMMENT from the rooftop.
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Reply #62 - 08/04/07 at 7:13am
 
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Quote from forpeace on 08/03/07 at 9:31pm:
Oh.  But don't forget that if it is not true, and I have no idea if it is or not; that a school system can't be torn down and lives destroyed.


See Duke Lacrosse rape allegations.  I can copy and paste if you can not find it.


This and Duke are like apples and oranges.


 I was responding to the quote from forpeace that said if it is not true that a school system cant be torn down and lives detroyed.  Not everything in life needs to compare to Hoover
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Reply #63 - 08/04/07 at 7:17am
 
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People that need to know, know who I am.  I also don't make a career out of reporting scandals and then not name the source of the information that is going to tear down a school system and however many lives.


So when you insinuated someone on this forum got a ring because of a situation referring to Kobe Bryant, did you name your source and sign it?"



Yes, I believe I did.


I never saw you post your source or your real name.  So, tell us again.

 
I have given enough hints as to who I am.  If you are unable to piece it together, sorry.
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Reply #64 - 08/04/07 at 7:23am
 
Quote from synergis1 on 08/03/07 at 11:53pm:
So if I understand Hooch correctly, he believes that when a person says "no Comment" to a journalist, there is no story and the journalist should go away and forget it - nothing to report.

Too funny.

If that was the case, there would never be a newspaper article written - except those based on press releases - and tv news programs would be awfully boring since they could only give the weather and sports scores.  Oh wait - FOOTBALL is the only thing that matters anyway.

There would never be a trial/hearing either since we should all just believe everyone that says "No comment" and "I didn't do it" and drop the matter.  

WRONG!

Investigation can and will prove what happens - even if the guilty party screams NO COMMENT from the rooftop.

 
You do not read me correctly.  That is not what I said.  Scroll back and reread it.  Or don't.  It doesnt affect me either way.
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Reply #65 - 08/04/07 at 7:31am
 
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 You think Hunter is making this up for his own personal gain?  I don't know this guy, but from the posts I've been reading he sounds like a pretty cool cat.  You say you should have been a journalist...go on, just remember to print the truth.  

 
He did sell an awful lot of newspapers with the story but I never claimed he made it up.  He just needs to name the sources that he used, or that came and sought him out and hold them accountable.
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Reply #66 - 08/04/07 at 7:50am
 
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You think Hunter is making this up for his own personal gain? I don't know this guy, but from the posts I've been reading he sounds like a pretty cool cat. You say you should have been a journalist...go on, just remember to print the truth.


He did sell an awful lot of newspapers with the story but I never claimed he made it up. He just needs to name the sources that he used, or that came and sought him out and hold them accountable.

 
The same could be said for Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, who did not reveal William Mark Felt, Sr.'s , a/k/a Deep Throat, identity.  Mr. Felt revealed himself on his own accord, as Woodward and Bernstein were going to wait until after Mr. Felt's death. (See Watergate, 1973)
 
The relationship that a reporter and his source have is paramount to good journalism.  Just last week the House introduced a bill that would shield reporters from having to reveal their sources.  This was introduced by the Democratic majority of the Judiciary Committee and opposed by the Republican minority, based on terrorism points.  As a conservative, the Republican points were pretty lame if you ask me.  
 
The assumption here is that everything is correct and true.  You ask in other posts how this affects you.  It doesn't affect you.  You don't have a son in that age group.  Yet.  You will see that once he reaches that age group, as a responsible parent you will be very cautious as to what you expose him to.  No football scholarship is worth selling out for.  Morals and ethics come first.  The rest works itself out.
 
There are parents here who are concerned what their children are exposed to.  Allow them to be concerned.  What is important and unimportant to you may not be the same for the other parents and vise versa.
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Re: Hunter Ford
Reply #67 - 08/04/07 at 8:41am
 
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People that need to know, know who I am.  I also don't make a career out of reporting scandals and then not name the source of the information that is going to tear down a school system and however many lives.


So when you insinuated someone on this forum got a ring because of a situation referring to Kobe Bryant, did you name your source and sign it?"



Yes, I believe I did.


I never saw you post your source or your real name.  So, tell us again.


I have given enough hints as to who I am.  If you are unable to piece it together, sorry.

 
I don't really care who you are....hint or no hint.  You missed the point of wanting to see if you would do what you are requesting others here to do.  
 
You are more of the type person that goes by, do as I say not as I do.  If you weren't you would name your source on LawMom's ring and why she got it and proudly sign your name.
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Reply #68 - 08/04/07 at 9:05am
 
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People that need to know, know who I am.  I also don't make a career out of reporting scandals and then not name the source of the information that is going to tear down a school system and however many lives.


So when you insinuated someone on this forum got a ring because of a situation referring to Kobe Bryant, did you name your source and sign it?"



Yes, I believe I did.


I never saw you post your source or your real name.  So, tell us again.


I have given enough hints as to who I am.  If you are unable to piece it together, sorry.


I don't really care who you are....hint or no hint.  You missed the point of wanting to see if you would do what you are requesting others here to do.  

You are more of the type person that goes by, do as I say not as I do.  If you weren't you would name your source on LawMom's ring and why she got it and proudly sign your name.

 
 
You said you were going to count to fifty, but you must have quit once you ran out of fingers and toes.
 
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Reply #69 - 08/04/07 at 9:13am
 
I think y'all are just having fun with the quote boxes, and don't want to quit...
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Reply #70 - 08/04/07 at 9:44am
 
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He did sell an awful lot of newspapers with the story but I never claimed he made it up.  He just needs to name the sources that he used, or that came and sought him out and hold them accountable.
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Hunter did quote a source in his story. It was Stephanie's exhusband and his lawyer.
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Reply #71 - 08/04/07 at 10:10am
 
Quote from billybob555 on 08/03/07 at 10:30pm:
A relationship between consenting adults is nothing like rape.  I do understand that being falsely accused is a horrible thing.  But that said, the boys at Duke stepped right up from the get go and said in public that they were innocent.

 
Hooch, here is the reply that I made after I counted to fifty because of your assinine remark about this being like the Duke case.
 
I forget who said it, but you need to lay off the meds.
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Reply #72 - 08/04/07 at 11:02am
 
The way I see it differently, the Duke case had one incident being investigated by many parties.  The prosecution, the defense, and probably the papers.  While it was terrible for the boys accused, they eventually were cleared.
 
Here in Hoover, and Eufala, and Ashville, there are multiple  stories, but not much of anyone really saying they are looking in to anything.  We have the BoE saying it really doesn't think it needs to be looked into.  Maybe if there were underage goats....There are no answers coming out, one way or the other.
 
As was refernced earlier, there was a principal taken out of one of the elementary schools, never to be seen again in the school.  It was too bad, because I think he was wonderful.  But you do have to err on the side of what kids are exposed to.
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Reply #73 - 08/04/07 at 11:13am
 
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The way I see it differently, the Duke case had one incident being investigated by many parties.  The prosecution, the defense, and probably the papers.  While it was terrible for the boys accused, they eventually were cleared.

Here in Hoover, and Eufala, and Ashville, there are multiple  stories, but not much of anyone really saying they are looking in to anything.  We have the BoE saying it really doesn't think it needs to be looked into.  Maybe if there were underage goats....There are no answers coming out, one way or the other.

As was refernced earlier, there was a principal taken out of one of the elementary schools, never to be seen again in the school.  It was too bad, because I think he was wonderful.  But you do have to err on the side of what kids are exposed to.

 
 
Will it end at high school, or will the crusade expand to college when Nick Saban's personal and professional decisions come out in the paper from an unnamed source?
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Reply #74 - 08/04/07 at 11:19am
 
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The way I see it differently, the Duke case had one incident being investigated by many parties. The prosecution, the defense, and probably the papers. While it was terrible for the boys accused, they eventually were cleared.

Here in Hoover, and Eufala, and Ashville, there are multiple stories, but not much of anyone really saying they are looking in to anything. We have the BoE saying it really doesn't think it needs to be looked into. Maybe if there were underage goats....There are no answers coming out, one way or the other.

As was refernced earlier, there was a principal taken out of one of the elementary schools, never to be seen again in the school. It was too bad, because I think he was wonderful. But you do have to err on the side of what kids are exposed to.



Will it end at high school, or will the crusade expand to college when Nick Saban's personal and professional decisions come out in the paper from an unnamed source?

 
As you can plainly see, my user name is "superdolfan", which makes me a fan of the Miami Dolphins.  Nick Saban is the former coach of the Miami Dolphins who clearly pointed his finger at reporters in December 2006 and said "I am not interested in the Alabama coaching job".  As soon as the season was over with, he was the new head coach of the Univ. of Alabama.  The man is a liar so there is no need to bring him into this conversation.  It's irrelevant and has nothing to do with the conversation.  If you have exhausted your points, then say so instead of grasping for straws.
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Reply #75 - 08/04/07 at 11:20am
 
Somehow protecting 14 to 18 year old seems different than 18 and up.  Thats part of the concept of minors.  Parents still have to sign permission slips for field trips, sign kids tests for school, etc.
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Reply #76 - 08/04/07 at 11:28am
 
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The way I see it differently, the Duke case had one incident being investigated by many parties.  The prosecution, the defense, and probably the papers.  While it was terrible for the boys accused, they eventually were cleared.

Here in Hoover, and Eufala, and Ashville, there are multiple  stories, but not much of anyone really saying they are looking in to anything.  We have the BoE saying it really doesn't think it needs to be looked into.  Maybe if there were underage goats....There are no answers coming out, one way or the other.

As was refernced earlier, there was a principal taken out of one of the elementary schools, never to be seen again in the school.  It was too bad, because I think he was wonderful.  But you do have to err on the side of what kids are exposed to.



Will it end at high school, or will the crusade expand to college when Nick Saban's personal and professional decisions come out in the paper from an unnamed source?


As you can plainly see, my user name is "superdolfan", which makes me a fan of the Miami Dolphins.  Nick Saban is the former coach of the Miami Dolphins who clearly pointed his finger at reporters in December 2006 and said "I am not interested in the Alabama coaching job".  As soon as the season was over with, he was the new head coach of the Univ. of Alabama.  The man is a liar so there is no need to bring him into this conversation.  It's irrelevant and has nothing to do with the conversation.  If you have exhausted your points, then say so instead of grasping for straws.

 
 
It has everything to do with the conversation.  This year, people want Rush out because all of the kids are unable to think for themselves and will run off and hump anything that moves because they saw Coach Propst do it.  OK, fine, Propst is out, new coach is in at Hoover High School, team goes 8-4, Little Johnny is now going off to Alabama on an academic scholarship and wants to play football.  Nick Saban, noted liar, not to mention however many NCAA violations pending, is the coach and an obvious bad example for your child.  What is your next step?
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Reply #77 - 08/04/07 at 11:31am
 
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Somehow protecting 14 to 18 year old seems different than 18 and up.  Thats part of the concept of minors.  Parents still have to sign permission slips for field trips, sign kids tests for school, etc.  

 
so, college is where you draw the line?  Is it when they leave for college, visit colleges, or start looking at colleges in sophomore and junior year that you cut the cord?  
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Reply #78 - 08/04/07 at 11:34am
 
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The way I see it differently, the Duke case had one incident being investigated by many parties.  The prosecution, the defense, and probably the papers.  While it was terrible for the boys accused, they eventually were cleared.

Here in Hoover, and Eufala, and Ashville, there are multiple  stories, but not much of anyone really saying they are looking in to anything.  We have the BoE saying it really doesn't think it needs to be looked into.  Maybe if there were underage goats....There are no answers coming out, one way or the other.

As was refernced earlier, there was a principal taken out of one of the elementary schools, never to be seen again in the school.  It was too bad, because I think he was wonderful.  But you do have to err on the side of what kids are exposed to.



Will it end at high school, or will the crusade expand to college when Nick Saban's personal and professional decisions come out in the paper from an unnamed source?


As you can plainly see, my user name is "superdolfan", which makes me a fan of the Miami Dolphins.  Nick Saban is the former coach of the Miami Dolphins who clearly pointed his finger at reporters in December 2006 and said "I am not interested in the Alabama coaching job".  As soon as the season was over with, he was the new head coach of the Univ. of Alabama.  The man is a liar so there is no need to bring him into this conversation.  It's irrelevant and has nothing to do with the conversation.  If you have exhausted your points, then say so instead of grasping for straws.

 
I didn't make the connection between your screen name, and Nick Saban being with the Dolphins because I honestly forgot that the Phins were an NFL team.
 
You let your kids pull for a team with a repeated drug offender like Ricky Williams?  He seems like a pretty bad example.  Wouldnt want my kids watching that.  They may see a high profile person like him openly talk about using drugs and think its ok.
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Reply #79 - 08/04/07 at 11:46am
 
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You think Hunter is making this up for his own personal gain?  I don't know this guy, but from the posts I've been reading he sounds like a pretty cool cat.  You say you should have been a journalist...go on, just remember to print the truth.  


He did sell an awful lot of newspapers with the story but I never claimed he made it up.  He just needs to name the sources that he used, or that came and sought him out and hold them accountable.


The same could be said for Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, who did not reveal William Mark Felt, Sr.'s , a/k/a Deep Throat, identity.  Mr. Felt revealed himself on his own accord, as Woodward and Bernstein were going to wait until after Mr. Felt's death. (See Watergate, 1973)

The relationship that a reporter and his source have is paramount to good journalism.  Just last week the House introduced a bill that would shield reporters from having to reveal their sources.  This was introduced by the Democratic majority of the Judiciary Committee and opposed by the Republican minority, based on terrorism points.  As a conservative, the Republican points were pretty lame if you ask me.  

The assumption here is that everything is correct and true.  You ask in other posts how this affects you.  It doesn't affect you.  You don't have a son in that age group.  Yet.  You will see that once he reaches that age group, as a responsible parent you will be very cautious as to what you expose him to.  No football scholarship is worth selling out for.  Morals and ethics come first.  The rest works itself out.

There are parents here who are concerned what their children are exposed to.  Allow them to be concerned.  What is important and unimportant to you may not be the same for the other parents and vise versa.

 
How funny, I just had to watch All the Presiden't Men for history.
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