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Reply #80 - 08/01/07 at 6:29pm
 
American Society is headed to hell in a handbasket precisely BECAUSE no one will take a moral stand.  Yeah, we conservatives try to....we scream and yell...but we never get anywhere because of people like you, BucsJags, who attempt to make us feel bad for trying to take a moral stand.
 
In the "old days" (i.e., our parents' time), if somebody like a football coach was fooling around, the superintendent and the principal and the church leaders would have taken him aside and said "cut it out".  And it would have ended.  But no one dare approach the mighty king propst.
 
And ShadzMtnMom has it exactly right:  since they've taken God out of everything, all hope for morality is lost.  
 
Moral standards MUST be in place to have civilized society.
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Reply #81 - 08/01/07 at 6:40pm
 
I had a last minute conference call that kept me here much longer that I wanted to, so since it's been this long, here is my last reply of the day for you to feast upon (jejune behavior) while I'm away.
 
I agree with you there, billybob, the program will survive.  There is no question.  However, the reputation that is now splattered all over the nation of Hoover, Alabama on public forums will be a long time from being removed due to the behavior of our less than stand-up citizens posting all the rumors and gossip like child’s play for public consumption.  This is typical of the bourgeois, pious and a pretentious self-righteous person.  You are doing far greater harm to your reputation and to Hoover than all of the people put together that you point your finger at in your condemnations.  As I’ve said already, you also are too benighted to realize these simple facts and the truth about your behavior in addressing your concerns.  What an embarrassing display of parenthood and citizenship within our community.
 
How should you have addressed your concerns?  Civilly, even if you feel that you've done it a million times before.  Not like an amadan.  What you do is you organize, not bringing your children along or into your discussions at home or on the phone, and then you once again go the BOE and CC meetings.  I know you think that’s a lot of hard work, but that is reality of how life works, or should work.  I actually think being civil is a long lost art with many of today’s so-called adults.  Then if you don't get the result you're looking for, you speak by way of your vote.  Less than 40% turned out at the last elections. What does that tell you?  It tells me that people would rather sling mud and act like children over the blogs, chat rooms, forums and talk-radio than act like mature civil responsible adults.  Isn't that truly sad?
 
Someone had posted over and over a comment I wholly agree with. You have been duped into "being heard for a change", not only by those within your own community, but also by many on the outside as well that want to see you fall and then ridiculed.  Your deplorable and very vocal public Internet and media behavior has made your community the laughing stock of the nation.  Far worse than MTV or Hollywood to the point that Mountain Brook is laughing at you, Vestavia is laughing at you, and Homewood is laughing at you.  On top of those communities being in complete awe over what they are witnessing in your behavior, you now even have communities that look up to a prospering city like Hoover for examples of how to make a community successful, Alabaster and Pelham and Calera are all laughing at you so hard that tears are rolling down their cheeks.  I hope you hold your heads up high when you're out, and you sleep well at nights for a long time to come.
 
Well, as I said earlier, family awaits.  Have a good evening.
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Reply #82 - 08/01/07 at 6:49pm
 
Which family is waiting for you?
 
I see you are playing with the thesaurus again.
 
My spouse and I deal with accountants, lawyers and engineers every week.  We have had a great time laughing about your reply about professional vocabularies using the word jejune.
 
Will your head go down in the sand any further????
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Reply #83 - 08/01/07 at 6:52pm
 
Quote from ILuvHoova on 08/01/07 at 6:29pm:
American Society is headed to hell in a handbasket precisely BECAUSE no one will take a moral stand.  Yeah, we conservatives try to....we scream and yell...but we never get anywhere because of people like you, BucsJags, who attempt to make us feel bad for trying to take a moral stand.

In the "old days" (i.e., our parents' time), if somebody like a football coach was fooling around, the superintendent and the principal and the church leaders would have taken him aside and said "cut it out".  And it would have ended.  But no one dare approach the mighty king propst.

And ShadzMtnMom has it exactly right:  since they've taken God out of everything, all hope for morality is lost.  

Moral standards MUST be in place to have civilized society.

Taking a moral stand is not the issue.  It is all about how you've gone about taking that moral stance.  Please talk to your Church leaders and ask if the posts you've made and actions you've taken are in the realm of "WWJD?" and if God would be proud of your witnessing he asks you to spread daily to your fellow man.  And don't throw in the Rush Propst angle. As my father taught me, and his father taught him, "Two Wrongs don't make a Right”.  The second wrong is exceedingly unacceptable, worse than the first.  
 
Many so-called "Moral majority" or "Christians" cite the Bible as saying "Gossip" is acceptable.  That would be the furthest from the truth.  Gossipers and Hypocrites are said to be of the worst kind, according to scripture.
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Reply #84 - 08/01/07 at 6:58pm
 
And why don't you go ask your church group if you judging others is ok.  
 
Did your father teach you that opinions may differ?  Did he teach you to treat others with respect and not insinuate their intelligence is not up to par with words like jejune?
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Reply #85 - 08/01/07 at 7:17pm
 
When the members of your city leadership and the members of your school board and the members of the most powerful booster organization this side of the Nile REFUSE to make changes based on the moral standards of your community, you have NO CHOICE but to speak on the Internet and in forums and in e-mails and in other like channels to GET THE MESSAGE OUT!  
 
Do you not think that any of us have TRIED to deal with this issue (RP's inflated power) outside of this forum?  Where have you been?  I have personally brought it up with those that have the power to oust him.  TO NO AVAIL!
 
If our city's leaders (governmental and academic) would pull their heads out of their a$$e$ and recognize that it is, IN FACT, THEIR behavior that has made us the laughingstock of the state and the nation, THEIR antics of FOOTBALL IS EVERYTHING, THEIR antics of allowing immoral behavior the pass because, BY GOD WINNING IS EVERYTHING, we wouldn't have to resort to forums and the like.
 
There is NO WAY to rid this community of the Mighty King Propst without sending him packing with his mistress and their kids.
 
RUSH PROPST IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS DEBACLE.  To blame it on anyone else proves you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
 
Have a nice dinner.
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Reply #86 - 08/01/07 at 7:18pm
 
Like I posted last week when morals go all you have is a big pile of crap.
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Reply #87 - 08/01/07 at 8:02pm
 
Quote from ManofSteel on 07/31/07 at 8:43am:
Shylos, your responce is insolent and tainted, thus constitutes no retort.  

MOS

Sounds like our "friend" Sports.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #88 - 08/01/07 at 8:07pm
 
Quote from whomeever424 on 08/01/07 at 8:02pm:
Quote from ManofSteel on 07/31/07 at 8:43am:
Shylos, your responce is insolent and tainted, thus constitutes no retort.  

MOS

Sounds like our "friend" Sports.  Roll Eyes

 
 
Nope.  MoS is Man of Steel and a friend of the forum.  He just likes football, that's all.  But he's also got class.
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Reply #89 - 08/01/07 at 8:15pm
 
Then my apology.
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Reply #90 - 08/01/07 at 8:19pm
 
Quote from whomeever424 on 08/01/07 at 8:15pm:
Then my apology.

 
Not at problem.  Welcome to the forum, whomeever!
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Reply #91 - 08/01/07 at 8:30pm
 
I have been reading this forum and the "other" one when things are not deleted Wink trying to make sense of the laughingstock that Hoover has become.  I just have a few statements and questions that I would like to make and ask.
 
1.  I am a little confused BucJag as to why you have yet to answer the question of is there a Stephanie.  You write as if you have a tremendous amount of knowledge about the situation and seem to feel that "Coach" has done nothing wrong so why not  answer  a simple question?
 
 
2.  Why has some investigative reporter not gone to Pell City and either confirmed or denied, once and for all and then there would either be proof or not be proof?  He is either there sometimes or he is not.
 
3.  When you take on a job in the public arena whether it be BOE, Coach, etc., you know going in to it that you and your behavior are open to the scrutiny of the public.  IF the allegations are true, it seems to me that people have perhaps violated the "Code of Ethics".  
 
4.  Yes, last time I checked this is still America.  We can wear what we want if we are adults.  It would be more fitting as a BOE member at a BOE meeting, in my opinion, for them to dress in a more businesslike manner rather than looking like they are applying for a job at Hooters, most especially since they make  and approve the dress code for Hoover schools.  BOE members should follow dress code at BOE meetings if they expect the dress code to followed at school. Period.
 
5.  Last but not least, it seems to me that some people forget that as adults and even as children, we are responsible for our behaviour..  No one else but ourselves.  I don't know what is fact and what is fiction in this ongoing saga of Hoover.    Hopefully it will all be figured out soon so this business can be over.  But the bottom line is when you make choices; good or bad, you alone are responsible.  If other people are talking about the choices, remember if you had not made the bad choice or the good choice; there would not be anything for people to talk about.  And in life, there are consequences for your actions.  So, to the "powers that be".  Hurry up, figure it out; dispense consequences and let's move on.
 
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Reply #92 - 08/01/07 at 8:33pm
 
Welcome forpeace.  Great post!!
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Reply #93 - 08/01/07 at 8:37pm
 
Thanks BillyBob! Smiley
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Reply #94 - 08/01/07 at 9:00pm
 
Quote from forpeace on 08/01/07 at 8:30pm:
I have been reading this forum and the "other" one when things are not deleted Wink trying to make sense of the laughingstock that Hoover has become.  I just have a few statements and questions that I would like to make and ask.

1.  I am a little confused BucJag as to why you have yet to answer the question of is there a Stephanie.  You write as if you have a tremendous amount of knowledge about the situation and seem to feel that "Coach" has done nothing wrong so why not  answer  a simple question?


2.  Why has some investigative reporter not gone to Pell City and either confirmed or denied, once and for all and then there would either be proof or not be proof?  He is either there sometimes or he is not.

3.  When you take on a job in the public arena whether it be BOE, Coach, etc., you know going in to it that you and your behavior are open to the scrutiny of the public.  IF the allegations are true, it seems to me that people have perhaps violated the "Code of Ethics".

4.  Yes, last time I checked this is still America.  We can wear what we want if we are adults.  It would be more fitting as a BOE member at a BOE meeting, in my opinion, for them to dress in a more businesslike manner rather than looking like they are applying for a job at Hooters, most especially since they make  and approve the dress code for Hoover schools.  BOE members should follow dress code at BOE meetings if they expect the dress code to followed at school. Period.

5.  Last but not least, it seems to me that some people forget that as adults and even as children, we are responsible for our behaviour..  No one else but ourselves.  I don't know what is fact and what is fiction in this ongoing saga of Hoover.    Hopefully it will all be figured out soon so this business can be over.  But the bottom line is when you make choices; good or bad, you alone are responsible.  If other people are talking about the choices, remember if you had not made the bad choice or the good choice; there would not be anything for people to talk about.  And in life, there are consequences for your actions.  So, to the "powers that be".  Hurry up, figure it out; dispense consequences and let's move on.


 
Five excellent, and simple, questions/statements that are costing us, the taxpayers, a lot of money to answer.
 
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Reply #95 - 08/01/07 at 10:17pm
 
darn, if a lot ain't been happening while I was gone!  You people have been getting at IT.  This stuff ain't Je-june at all. BucsJerk, you may know the word, but you don't use it properly.  And if you think folks are "fools" then just say so...amadan, jeez.
 
Twenty-dollar words and being a pompous a** won't sway peoples opinions.   Neither will attacking them.  Better to appeal to their reason than to rant like an overeducated boob...
 
Bourgeois? Are you a communist?  Self-righteous?  Man, you're the king!
 
Trust me, DUDE, my God and I are tight.  Are you and yours?
 
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right you are DriveSouth,
Reply #96 - 08/01/07 at 11:03pm
 
I DO know this:  I'm an engineer and my husband is an attorney and I don't use jejune or amadan in ANY of my normal discourse (but I DO use 'discourse'... Grin   )
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Reply #97 - 08/01/07 at 11:08pm
 
I'll bet you do... Wink
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Reply #98 - 08/01/07 at 11:10pm
 
One other question since the word is getting thrown around: Have you guys heard the band 'Amadan'?
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Reply #99 - 08/01/07 at 11:11pm
 
But I'll say this for BucsFan, I haven't seen words like that since I typed freshman English papers in college for extra money.
 
Of course, I edited that crap out...
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