"Daddy, why are people saying the coach has two families? Is it ok as long as you play football?"
"I'm sorry son, I can't discuss this with you, I am going to be civil."
 
You have got to be kidding. Look up kidding in your thesaurus-- in a civil discourse it may be politely substituted for " effin out of your mind".  

Quote from riverteacher on 08/02/07 at 12:05am:

 
 
"Daddy, why are people saying the coach has two families? Is it ok as long as you play football?"
 
"Son, coach has made bad decisions in his personal life and I am glad that I raised you well enough to spot that what he had done is questionable and that you came to me with your concerns.  We can discuss what is wrong about it if you like.  If you ever have any other questions about anything, please feel comfortable in coming to me with them"
 
Common Sense.  Look up common sense in the thesaurus.  You will see a picture of the author of the previous father-son scenario, looking at me saying, "that Hooverhooch has some common sense."  in a civil discourse, it may be politely substituted for "what normal effin people use to rationalize things they read"

Thanks dad.  Mom loves those questions.

DriveSouth,  Amadan does indeed mean fool in 'Gaelic' but it's also a band from Corvallis, WA.  Irishpunk.  Since we are using this word now, I think we should all broaden our musical horizons with some Celtic-Punk.  Whatchyouall think?

Quote from HooverHooch on 08/02/07 at 9:15am:

Well put, HooverHooch.  I couldn't agree with you more on your post.
 
Sincerely,
 
BucsJags

You know, the people who think this is all OK will end up suffering in the end. Communication? They are sending the WRONG message to their children AND the community.
 
They will wake up one day with a daughter who wants to work at HOOTERS after school or a son who gets his girlfriend pregnant. Let them have their fun...one day they will look back and say, "where did you ever get the idea that this was ok?"

Quote from momminator on 08/02/07 at 9:20am:

 
momminator,  Gaelic, of course, is the proper term.  And the band is pretty good if you like that sort of thing (and I am a fan of all music).  I think that the horizons of several of the folks here could use some broadening...
 
Bail ó Dhia ort!

Folks, I think Hooch is just a big proponent of the 'live and let live' philosophy which generally is totally espoused by many younger adults.  I know I would defend this philosophy to the death in my early twenties.  This operating philosophy becomes harder  and harder to continue to believe as you progress in age and have seen a great deal of life.  At least for me, that philosophy was totally mine through my twenties and into the early 30's.  But as my life has progressed, children have grown, I've been thru a divorce and a happy remarriage, and I've seen many things and faced more and more moral dilemmas until truthfully I could no longer be totally disinterested and just write everything off into 'live and let live'.    
 
I have seen far too much collateral damage to friends, families, children of friends and my own children to just agree to ignore egregious behaviour and never say a word or try to invoke a change in behavior.  I deeply believe that 'judge not, lest ye be judged' and I certainly know it's the Lord's final judgement is all that matters, so I know not to make any judgements on RP soul.... but I know enough honest fact to have lots of concern in this situation.

Quote from LawMom on 08/02/07 at 9:28am:

That seems to happen very often to parents that tell me all the same things I'm reading out here posted by you.  I've seen that happen several times with kids in our Church, Pastor's children, and often with the highly educated and wealthy. Yes, instilling values is the most important thing you can do as a parent, but instilling the right values like how to address issues, how not to conduct yourself when in opposition with someone (and the list goes on) are the values many parents often overlook.  That is then when the child makes bad decisions, they weren't taught all the right values for life.  Fortunately, some children grow up and learn many values on their own that they were never taught as a child.  Then again, some don't and there creates the main issue that brings us to what we are seeing today in our community.

Yes Momminator, he knows this.  He is like isport in the sense that he only wants to agitate this forum and make no worthy post except to point his Christian finger.