Quote from HooverHooch on 07/22/07 at 7:04pm:Quote from radar49 on 07/22/07 at 6:36pm:Hooverhooch,
I've been trying to keep up with the forum topics, but I must have missed something. Did a public figure ask for forgiveness? If so, who? If so, which "sin(s)" did he/she ask to be forgiven for? Thanks for any additional information which you might be able to provide.
I am unaware of anyone asking for forgiveness and I have nothing to provide to this rediculous topic. I am just having a problem understanding why everyone seems to think it is their business what Rush does outside of working hours. If there is stolen money as noted in your post, then action should be taken, but I was not commenting on your statement. I was more focused on the person who stated that she wants Rush called out during church. It's my own fault for keeping up with these forums. A guilty little pleasure if you will. Not necessarily the topics, but the vast array of opinions that range from the totally rediculous to downright ignorant. Just an inexpensive way of amusing myself while I am in between projects as television has taken quite the spiral downward, especially during the daytime.
Quote from HooverHooch on 07/22/07 at 5:24pm:Quote from HooverGirl on 07/22/07 at 10:47am:Question - with all the mega churches in the area - what has been said from the pulpits about the situations discussed? I do believe cheating, adultry, etc. is in their realm for discussion. And if there hasn't been much said - to use a football term - we need to get back to the fundamentals.
The "mega-churches" have handled it as the Bible states. The "let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" incident is one of the most well-known lessons of the Bible. A woman, who had been caught in the act of adultery was brought to Jesus Christ by the scribes and Pharisees as a test to see if the Messiah was a liberal in matters of the Law of God. In response to their query, He didn't condemn the woman, not because He was a liberal, not because He condoned her sin, but because the men who brought the woman to Him were Hypocrites. He was the only person there that day who was free of sin, the only one who had the right to "cast the first stone." He didn't stone her (or her accusers), but instead forgave her. I suggest you all take notice of this, move on with your lives and stay out of the lives of others that do not concern you,
I have tried SO hard to not comment on this thread but your last two posts make it nearly impossible to keep my mouth shut.
Allow me to address your two posts. It is always good to quote scripture when it supports our cause, right? Well, since we're on a scripture quoting roll, we could quote one of the 10 Commandments which I do believe addresses this issue square on. But I choose not to go that route. I'll go a different route with you.
Please tell me, oh wise one who quotes from the Bible, what I should say to my teenage son who looks up to said person and asks about the situation? Should I say "Son, are you without sin? Should you cast the first stone?", or how about this one "Son, what grownups do in their own time is their business. You should not concern yourself with that. When you're a grownup then you can also decide if you want to go that route." Or how about "Son, what are you talking about? This is nothing but a bunch of gossip that doesn't concern us. What? She came along to a practice? So what? We are Christians and we don't cast the first stone. What others do is none of our concern, even if you do look up to them and they do not hide it."
And before you say "Well, how does your son know about it?". They know. I just asked him a very simple question regarding the grade changing investigation to see if he was even aware of it (we have not talked about it, nor have we talked about anything else pertaining to the situation). Names, dates, times, schools and whatever else you want to know came out of that boy's mouth. I learned more in 30 seconds from that boy that I have since the investigation started. They know. And they justify it based on who the adult is. In this case, a role model.
You see, my friend HH, it's so different when it involves someone your child admires, respects, considers a role model. See, if he is not taught that this type of behavior is improper, he's going to grow up and repeat the behavior using this person as justification ("Well, HE did it, so it must be OK"). No, HH, sometimes you can't look the other way. You have to say "enough is enough". Frankly, I could care less what people do in their spare time, as long as it doesn't affect me. Guess what? It's affecting me by getting to my child. I get to play interference when my kid is affected by it. Does that compute with you? Fidelity and loyalty are very important traits that I have taught to my children. I cannot allow someone to undo them by flaunting improper behavior.
It's time for him to sing the Jimmy Swaggart song. That's the only thing that could possibly rescue the situation, but even that may be too late. I'm hoping that you had your head out of the Bible long enough to read this. The problem exists. It's public. It needs to go away, and no amount of out of context scripture quoting will make it go away. Only the involved parties can make it go away.